Another question that we get a lot. And I think it's wrong to ask this question in this way, since sheep are not people, so while they certainly have a full range of emotions, these would be different emotions than our own. Just like I have read somewhere that it's almost impossible to find 2 people who see colors in exactly the same way, so when we say "blue" your blue and my blue can be actually pretty far apart, even though it's the same word.
Sheep do form lasting social relationships. First it's with their mom and siblings, later with other lambs and even later it's usually with unrelated members of the flock. I often say our flock is a lot like all girl high school with rivalry between groups, shifting alliances, etc. In my experience the alliances do not last longer than a several months, although hatred between certain members can go on for years. I've yet to see a sheep growing restless because one of her girlfriends is missing. They will call each other while they can see but other than that it's pretty much "out of sight - out of mind". Or at least it seems this way from their behavior.
Well, may be relationship between a lamb and the mother is much stronger? Yes, for a couple weeks. It's amazing how strong mother's protective instinct is in the first few days and how fast it disappears. In the beginning your average ewe will protect her lamb from anything or anybody, make sure it's not lost, etc. But the little one better use this time to grow and became stronger, because in a week or two mom's attitude will change to "just follow me and try to keep up and if there is a danger run fast somewhere, it's not my problem anymore" (that's pretty smart actually because lams of that age are even more difficult to catch than adults but they still can't survive without milk, so mother's sacrifice would be pretty counterproductive). There are variations but from two weeks on the relationship seems to be mostly based on milk - lambs come to mother when they're hungry and mom calls them when her udder is full and starts to hurt. They still sleep together for a while but that may just because lambs don't want to miss when mom gets up so they can latch on her. If separated before weaning, mothers and lambs will seek each other for a few days but that, once again, may be just about milk. After weaning, I don't think their relationships are any different from those of other flock member.
So, in short – no, I don't think they “miss” gone flock members and it makes perfect sense if we remember how the sheep (and other prey animals) defend themselves from predators. No, not by being faster than the predators but by being faster than some of their flock mates. In the wild, almost every night someone would be eaten and sheep couldn't survive if they all needed therapy every time that happens. I'm sure there is some emotion involved and there is probably a word in the sheep language that describes this emotion but it's not “miss” or any other label we could slap on it. A group of humans lives and behaves like a pack, not like flock or herd, so it's relatively easy for us to understand and describe emotions of dogs or other pack animals but prey animals are difficult, so we tend to dumb it down to the level where we can “relate”.
P.S. I just did a quick google for "do sheep miss gone flockmates?" and the amount of the snake oil science on the first two pages is pretty amazing, as well as the depth of the male bovine excrement presented as gospel by people who are either pretty ignorant on the issue or have the agenda and stick to it, the facts be damned.
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Hi Leon,
We've got a small flock of small sheep (Ouessants). With our 3-acres, we struggle to get weaned lambs and mums far enough apart to be out of earshot, especially at night, so lots of soulful baa-ing for a couple of weeks.
Having had four boys (each ewe gives just one lamb for this old breed) each year for several years, we finally had a couple of girls last year. When I took the ram away from the girls, to go back in with the castrated males, I took the girl lambs away from their brothers and put them back with their mums as I didn't want them inseminated the first year.
We're they happy to see their mums again? Nope. They cried as much as they had at weaning time and there seemed to be no recognition even, staying as a pair and shirked by the mums' clique. Again, it took a couple of weeks for them to settle. Maybe it's the change to routine that they find disturbing.
Have you read When Elephants Weep: The Emotional Lives of Animals by Jeffrey Masson and Susan McCarthy ? It's been a few years since I have but I remember liking it. I certainly agree, from what I've seen over the past few years smallholding, that animals have varying levels of emotions.
Hi Stuart (Gabrielle? :)
I noticed that too - as soon as they grow past the nursing stage they tend to hang out with sheep who are NOT members of their own bloodline (Nature's way to prevent inbreeding, perhaps?).
I haven't read this book - thanks for recommendation. To return the favor - my all time favorite is Animals in Translation by Temple Grandin. It confirmed all I ever knew about how animals think and taught me a lot about how humans think :)
Now, I'm really curious - why do you wean? I mean it doesn't sound like you run a 3-penny-profit-margin commercial operation, so what are the benefits?
Hi Leon,
I suppose we wean because we thought that's what you do. We have a small flock on a relatively small amount of land, so there's no possibility for the mums to disappear over the next hill if they've had enough of their youngsters.
There comes a moment when the lambs have been eating grass for some time but seem to still like the comfort of suckling but their mums are not so interested and seem to be annoyed and pushing them away. It's at this moment that we wean the lambs and put them in a fresh field with last year's lambs (we eat them between 1 yr and 18 months old) letting the ram rejoin his ladies. Apart for a day or two baaing, it doesn't seem to bother them and they thrive, leaving tired mums alone.
We had a case of summer mastitis once and it was suggested to us that it could have been caused by a lamb suckling for too long as the teat naturally seals up after a while, leaving it sealed up against bacteria, waiting for next year.
What is your own opinion and practise of not/weaning ?
We stopped weaning several years ago after someone asked why do we do that :) and I sat down to do a cost/benefits analyses.
Basically, the only benefit is that the ewes will get in the good condition faster (some says that's off set by the fact that the lambs will need more grain to keep growing at the same rate thought). The costs are labor required to wean, to run a separate flock* and to dry the mums, mastitis** and having to listen to them calling each other for a few days :) Some people also think that it's cruelty, etc. but since there is no hard science on that let's not go there.
It's true that lambs become pests at some point but as we've discovered most ewes are pretty good at kicking them out of the house at this point. (I don't think large or small pasture plays a role here since sheep generally stay together anyway). And since (due to our climate and breed) we have a luxury of year around lambing and (due to our philosophy) we don't try to squeeze as many prize winning lambs out of each ewe as we can and our time cost a lot to us, getting rid of weaning seemed liked a no brainer.
One of the things I found during the initial research is that originally nobody weaned meat/wool sheep. That practice seem to came from the cow people or dairy sheep and spread by the extensions (and whatever was before them). It is obviously very important for commercial guys, who time the lambing to a minute and rent high priced rams by the hour. For a small flock in our situation I just don't see the benefits outweighing the costs. Yes, the sheep books tell you to do it but they're mostly written by people who learned the ropes on huge factory-like farms or in the universities serving such farms.
*The math could be different for us if running a separate flock was as simple as driving part of the sheep to another pasture. However, between high predator pressure, MIG and "almost zero chemicals" worm control program, running a separate flock is a major undertaking here. As a matter of fact, for the last few years we run just one flock (yes, even keeping the rams together with everybody else).
** I've always thought that you get mastitis from weaning, when you don't dry the ewes properly. I've never heard you can get it from not weaning and that obviously may change the equation as well, so I need to do more research here. Well, that's what farming is it seems - never ending research and fixing fences :)
Here's what I found researching whether late weaning can cause mastitis:
http://www.sheep101.info/201/weaning.html
http://www.ansci.wisc.edu/extension-new%20copy/sheep/wisline_07/Timms,%20sheep%20paper%202007.pdf
http://ag.ansc.purdue.edu/sheep/ansc442/Semprojs/2003/weaning/sheeppage.htm
There was more, obviously, but these seems to be the most concise and/or well researched. I think we'll continue with natural weaning method :)
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